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		By: Marcus		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Proverbs 20:30
[30]The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.]]></description>
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[30]The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.</p>
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		By: Marcus		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I notice you quote a lot of Paul, when Rev 2 VS 1 Cor 8 seems to make it clear that Paul&#039;s message was opposite of what THE Hamashiach intended! I think the OT intended for us to use a rod-like instrument to punish our children in a way that WE KNOW that they cannot escape. Children can learn to derive solace from any loopholes you provide in your punishment style without letting you know that they actually have[those seen and unseen*]; as a result, levied punishment should be without &quot;parole&quot; and inexorable while it is happening. That&#039;s not to say that we should always use the rod; occasionally, I think we may talk instead. Still, they should expect it every time. With my dad, we may get a whupping or we may have been talked to when we deserved to be punished. But, I think, that most of the time, we got a whupping! 

For us, whuppings were with my dad&#039;s big leather belt or our teacher&#039;s/principal&#039;s board on the butt(these felt about the same) and each whack SERIOUSLY hurt! Or, my mom(and usually a certain woman in certain instances) whupped us with a switch; these were not the unbearable tree branches. Instead, they were way skinnier than any tree branch that I ever remember seeing. They grew up out of the ground like bushes and were covered with little ???? colored leaves that had to be pulled off before they were used. The whuppings happened wherever you could be hit--EXCEPT A. the neck and above(front or back), B. the private region and above in the front(we could be hit on the arms, though), and C. the feet(if barefooted). They hurt in a stinging way and left very temporary marks. The pain and residuals were inescapable and inexorable in real time, but very temporary as far as the belt, board, or switch! Plus, if we misbehaved in public, we could get it there, too! 

They were the hot stove moment and we dreaded them like people dread dangerous things happening to them. The things you knowingly dread require being vigilant and careful as to how you might incur them in the future(like you don&#039;t go walking around in the tall grass/woods in the summer without a plan to avoid vipers nor do you go into bear/cougar habitat alone and without an effectively lethal weapon that will keep you from becoming a statistic). This dread of incurring punishment teaches you not to do things that are disrespectful to those that you are bound to respect, the behavior to follow the applicable rules, the mind/heart to apply what you have learned to old/new scenarios that arise, the mindset to reflect upon the wrong you&#039;ve done, and the patience to endure.

Verses:


Proverbs 13:24
[24]He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Betimes is said to mean early. 

Proverbs 15:10
[10]Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.

Proverbs 22:15
[15]Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13-14
[13]Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
[14]Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Genesis 8:21
[21]for the imagination of man&#039;s heart is evil from his youth. This is an excerpt of Gen 8:21. This is true, but seems to be prophetic of today&#039;s parents when you look at it like this: the parents&#039; decision to look at THE MOST HIGH&#039;s law as rubbish to satisfy their own feelings[to them, all hurting of a chjIb is abuese and hate/they may worry about how their chjIb will view it later or how their peers will view it now instead of performing the toughest duties of being a parent] and prophetic of how their modern parental styles allow this behavior to grow as the chjIb develops instead. A system that fosters chjIbren to become more evil is a nightmarish concept. 

Jeremiah 17:9-10
[9]The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
[10]I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

*Grounding is that kind of punishment style. This kind of punishment does not always inflict the kind of fear/respect/correction in the mind of a chjIb as some think it will. They may derive solace or pleasure in coloring, reading, writing, drawing, math work, food, and/or in their thoughts while at home[even if you take their devices away or you have the means to lock them up where they cannot get out during this time], a personal key can be copied[so that the key your chjIb has been given is not the only one they have/have access to**], and there are also ways to get much pleasure at school without you knowing[they have friends that have &quot;pleasure&quot; in their hands and they will get pleasure from being with friends]. Grounding should not be a sole method of punishment: there are too many loopholes with it.

**Their friends may have one and they can access it at school from one of them. Crafty, right?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice you quote a lot of Paul, when Rev 2 VS 1 Cor 8 seems to make it clear that Paul&#8217;s message was opposite of what THE Hamashiach intended! I think the OT intended for us to use a rod-like instrument to punish our children in a way that WE KNOW that they cannot escape. Children can learn to derive solace from any loopholes you provide in your punishment style without letting you know that they actually have[those seen and unseen*]; as a result, levied punishment should be without &#8220;parole&#8221; and inexorable while it is happening. That&#8217;s not to say that we should always use the rod; occasionally, I think we may talk instead. Still, they should expect it every time. With my dad, we may get a whupping or we may have been talked to when we deserved to be punished. But, I think, that most of the time, we got a whupping! </p>
<p>For us, whuppings were with my dad&#8217;s big leather belt or our teacher&#8217;s/principal&#8217;s board on the butt(these felt about the same) and each whack SERIOUSLY hurt! Or, my mom(and usually a certain woman in certain instances) whupped us with a switch; these were not the unbearable tree branches. Instead, they were way skinnier than any tree branch that I ever remember seeing. They grew up out of the ground like bushes and were covered with little ???? colored leaves that had to be pulled off before they were used. The whuppings happened wherever you could be hit&#8211;EXCEPT A. the neck and above(front or back), B. the private region and above in the front(we could be hit on the arms, though), and C. the feet(if barefooted). They hurt in a stinging way and left very temporary marks. The pain and residuals were inescapable and inexorable in real time, but very temporary as far as the belt, board, or switch! Plus, if we misbehaved in public, we could get it there, too! </p>
<p>They were the hot stove moment and we dreaded them like people dread dangerous things happening to them. The things you knowingly dread require being vigilant and careful as to how you might incur them in the future(like you don&#8217;t go walking around in the tall grass/woods in the summer without a plan to avoid vipers nor do you go into bear/cougar habitat alone and without an effectively lethal weapon that will keep you from becoming a statistic). This dread of incurring punishment teaches you not to do things that are disrespectful to those that you are bound to respect, the behavior to follow the applicable rules, the mind/heart to apply what you have learned to old/new scenarios that arise, the mindset to reflect upon the wrong you&#8217;ve done, and the patience to endure.</p>
<p>Verses:</p>
<p>Proverbs 13:24<br />
[24]He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Betimes is said to mean early. </p>
<p>Proverbs 15:10<br />
[10]Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.</p>
<p>Proverbs 22:15<br />
[15]Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.</p>
<p>Proverbs 23:13-14<br />
[13]Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.<br />
[14]Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.</p>
<p>Genesis 8:21<br />
[21]for the imagination of man&#8217;s heart is evil from his youth. This is an excerpt of Gen 8:21. This is true, but seems to be prophetic of today&#8217;s parents when you look at it like this: the parents&#8217; decision to look at THE MOST HIGH&#8217;s law as rubbish to satisfy their own feelings[to them, all hurting of a chjIb is abuese and hate/they may worry about how their chjIb will view it later or how their peers will view it now instead of performing the toughest duties of being a parent] and prophetic of how their modern parental styles allow this behavior to grow as the chjIb develops instead. A system that fosters chjIbren to become more evil is a nightmarish concept. </p>
<p>Jeremiah 17:9-10<br />
[9]The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?<br />
[10]I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.</p>
<p>*Grounding is that kind of punishment style. This kind of punishment does not always inflict the kind of fear/respect/correction in the mind of a chjIb as some think it will. They may derive solace or pleasure in coloring, reading, writing, drawing, math work, food, and/or in their thoughts while at home[even if you take their devices away or you have the means to lock them up where they cannot get out during this time], a personal key can be copied[so that the key your chjIb has been given is not the only one they have/have access to**], and there are also ways to get much pleasure at school without you knowing[they have friends that have &#8220;pleasure&#8221; in their hands and they will get pleasure from being with friends]. Grounding should not be a sole method of punishment: there are too many loopholes with it.</p>
<p>**Their friends may have one and they can access it at school from one of them. Crafty, right?!</p>
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